I see this all the time as well. I have found that if I completely remove the text from my template and re-insert, I am able to get around it. With that said, I would absolutely agree that something is fundamentally weird that we have to do that in the first place.
-Ben
Here are two examples of the same text. One was entered and built directly in JO and the other was built first in MS Word and then pasted into JO.
Can you see the difference in HTML formatting tags in just the first few lines of text?
Directly built in JO:
<p class="p1" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; margin: 0px;">Hi Abby ,</p>
<p class="p2" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; margin: 0px;"><br></p>
<p class="p1" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; margin: 0px;">I'm a member of the Customer Success Team and wanted to send a quick email to provide you with an updated list of key resources.</p>
Built in MS Word and pasted into JO:
<p style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 12pt; line-height: 15pt; background: white; vertical-align: baseline;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#2F3941;">Hi Abby,</span></p>
<p style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; margin: 0in 0in 12pt; line-height: 15pt; background: white; vertical-align: baseline; outline: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; widows: 2; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#2F3941;">I'm a member of the Customer
Success Team and wanted to send a quick email to provide you with an updated
list of key resources.</span></p>
And then if you pasted that same text through another text editor, in this case Gmail, then pasted it into JO, things get even more interesting:
<p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; margin: 0in 0in 12pt; line-height: 15pt; background-image: initial; background-position: initial; background-size: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; vertical-align: baseline; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(47, 57, 65);">Hi Abby,</span></p>
<p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; margin: 0in 0in 12pt; line-height: 15pt; background-image: initial; background-position: initial; background-size: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; vertical-align: baseline; outline: 0px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(47, 57, 65);">I'm a member of the Customer Success Team and wanted to send a quick email to provide you with an updated list of key resources.</span></p>
Every one of those extra tags adds complexity and risk that some email client application will choke on that HTML code and display the content inconsistently.
And to show how insidious pasting - paste each of those groups of text into a template and look at the visual differences between these three blocks of text. The differences can be very minimal, but just frustrating enough to have you scratching your head.
Adding to this complexity is the fact that not only do different email clients interpret HTML tags differently, but some clients will alter email content when you forward it as well. Bonkers, right? That's the world of email clients and servers and why companies like Email on Acid have a business model!
For example, take the content above in the
And then if you pasted that same text through another text editor, in this case Gmail, then pasted it into JO, things get even more interesting:
section.
Paste it into JO and then use the "remove formatting" option. Some will be removed but it won't take you back to the way it appears in the
Directly built in JO:
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Hey Heather,
I see this all the time as well. I have found that if I completely remove the text from my template and re-insert, I am able to get around it. With that said, I would absolutely agree that something is fundamentally weird that we have to do that in the first place.
-Ben
2 years have gone by and I still had to use this solution to get the formatting with tokens to work properly. At least it still works.
My apologies
I’ve read Dan’s comments and before I go through the trouble of retype all my email templates, I’d like to know if this will solve the following problem:
when adding extra text into the email before sending it though email assist, the resulting font sizes are unpredictable, in the resulting email. Some text ends up with a bigger font, and it’s not even the text that I manually added!
Thanks!
Lyne
No, ever since they changed to the new editor, the bloated html and behavior of the text is 100x worse. Half my day creating a template now is spent on removing the junk code that causes the unpredictable rendering of the text. And no, I’m not pasting from word, I type directly in the editor.
This is how much code is generated for 16 words - all in the same sentence! I have a support ticket highlighting this behavior but am not expecting a solution to come from it.
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