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seth
Expert ā­ļø
March 24, 2022

Discussion Question!šŸ‘‚ What have you always wanted to try in JO?

  • March 24, 2022
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I feel like JO can do so muchĀ that there’s always ideas bumping around the back of my mind that I’ve never gotten around to trying.

For me, for example: When a CSM adds a certain Timeline activity or completes a CTA task, it’s basically a way that they’re manually subscribing a customer to a drip campaign of info about a certain feature.

What about you?? What’s one thing you’ve never done with JO, but you think it’d just beĀ so cool?

11 replies

bradley
Expert ā­ļø
March 24, 2022

Have a single program run more than once a day!Ā 

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bradley
Expert ā­ļø
March 25, 2022

Another thing that would be great is the ability to easily trigger a program with another program - If you’re familiar with process builder or workflows in Salesforce (I forget what they call them now) this is sort of a similar idea and in fact, if you wanted to go all out wouldn’t be limited to program to program interaction.

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The short version of a use case here is tech/digital touch customers and their onboarding:

  • First program sends out a welcomeĀ email
  • Second program looks for recipients of that email and sends out some drip content
  • Third program looks at recipients of second program who have interacted with something and sends out a feedback survey

Each of these programs would have their own program workflows in them as well just as they would today. But a workflow builder would more easily allow you to link them together so you can follow the journey of any given participant through the workflow, troubleshoot, and set up the overall journey as well.

seth
sethAuthor
Expert ā­ļø
March 25, 2022

Yeah, both of these could be easier. Could probably wrangle -- in some situationsĀ -- Events Framework to get a Program to run more than 1x a day, and could set up a Program to pull from another Program’s Participant records or logs. But both of those feel more like workarounds than purpose-built.

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You also took this in a direction that I didn’t expect :-) Is there something you’d want to try with JO that itĀ canĀ handle today, but you just haven’t had the time or needĀ to do it yet, @bradley?

AI Transformation @ Gainsight
bradley
Expert ā­ļø
March 25, 2022

Yeah, both of these could be easier. Could probably wrangle -- in some situationsĀ -- Events Framework to get a Program to run more than 1x a day, and could set up a Program to pull from another Program’s Participant records or logs. But both of those feel more like workarounds than purpose-built.

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You also took this in a direction that I didn’t expect :-) Is there something you’d want to try with JO that itĀ canĀ handle today, but you just haven’t had the time or needĀ to do it yet,Ā @bradley?

I guess to answer yourĀ actual question :)Ā I’ve wanted to do a PX<>CS Journey. Had a first attempt a couple years ago before any direct integration was really a thing but haven’t had the opportunity/occasion to do it since.

seth
sethAuthor
Expert ā­ļø
March 25, 2022

Such a good one! So much power there.

AI Transformation @ Gainsight
lane_h
Helper ā­ļø
March 28, 2022

Another thing that would be great is the ability to easily trigger a program with another program - If you’re familiar with process builder or workflows in Salesforce (I forget what they call them now) this is sort of a similar idea and in fact, if you wanted to go all out wouldn’t be limited to program to program interaction.

Ā 

The short version of a use case here is tech/digital touch customers and their onboarding:

  • First program sends out a welcomeĀ email
  • Second program looks for recipients of that email and sends out some drip content
  • Third program looks at recipients of second program who have interacted with something and sends out a feedback survey

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There was the idea once of ā€œProgram Stacking.ā€ I really hope this comes to fruition because it’s imperative in a Digital led segment.

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Director of CX and Scale Programs
andreammelde
Helper ā­ļøā­ļø
March 28, 2022

More robust analytics - be able to better show our stakeholders the ROI. Set goals with each program (like a goal open rate, bounce rate etc). JO takes a good chunk of a person’s time to get fully set, but it tends to be difficult to share out analysis

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Andrea Carroll
sarahmiracle
VIP ā­ļøā­ļøā­ļøā­ļøā­ļø
March 31, 2022

Such a great discussion topic! We’re currently investigating how JO can help us with scheduling customer purchased professional services sessions. We capture professional services as subscription records in SFDC and ingest them into Gainsight through DD with Snowflake, so I was considering using an Event Status as a calculated field that would assess if the session had been scheduled or not.

I like the idea of triggering off of timeline or a CTA task!

I think that changing the perception of what JO can be used for is important but somewhat difficult for newcomers to the feature. For example, the most common use case needs I hear from my org are related to the routine emails they send customers in their workflow, like for chasing down Docusign signatures or scheduling QBRs. But those types of emails always come with a lot of nuance and varied messaging depending on unique customer situations. Where instead, I think we could really be leveraging JO for things weĀ aren’tĀ yet emailing our customers about -- like warm outreach about new product features, as you suggested Seth.Ā 

Customer Success Systems Admin @ Amplitude, 3x Gainsight CS Ops Product Council Member
seth
sethAuthor
Expert ā­ļø
March 31, 2022

That’s a major 🤯 moment, @sarahmiracleĀ :
ā€œI think we could really be leveraging JO for things we aren’t yet emailing our customers aboutā€

@heather_hansenĀ These ProServ sessions that Sarah mentionedĀ remind me of your constant journey with Calendly!

AI Transformation @ Gainsight
heather_hansen
VIP ā­ļøā­ļøā­ļøā­ļøā­ļø
March 31, 2022

I’ve often thought that I’d like to be able to tie things that are in separate areas of the product together.Ā  For example, if I’m building a survey, I’d like to be able to build the email template/journey from within the framework of the survey builder so I don’t have to jump around to different areas of the product.Ā  I agree with @bradleyĀ too - an easier way to ā€œchainā€ programs together.Ā  I’ve also kicked around creating a process for a CSM to flag an account to go into a journey and also remove them.Ā  We just migrated to NXT, so I may be exploring that soon.