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kstim
Helper ⭐️⭐️
July 8, 2021
New Idea

Default Rule Name Section in Rules Engine to Show Entire Rule Name

  • July 8, 2021
  • 18 replies
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Hi all,

Within the Horizon Analytics version of Rules Engine, it’s nice to be able to expand the Rule Name section to see the entire name of the rule without having to wait for the tooltip to pop up when moving your cursor over it. However, when I drag the bar over to see the entire name and then switch to a different folder, it reverts back to its default position and I have to move the section line again. It would be nice to have this auto default to show the entire rule name in Rules Engine and when switching between folders if possible. Thanks!

18 replies

davebrown2242
Helper ⭐️
October 6, 2021

YESSSSSSSSS! A x1000 times yes!  Any admin worth their salt is using a standardized Syntax.

 

And Re-Hyperlink the Rules in the Rule Chain View - PLEASE! (Separate but equal gripe)

DB
Cornelia
Contributor ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
October 7, 2021

Hello @darkknight, sure. Escalating this for a response at the earliest. 

rakesh
Gainsight Employee ⭐️
Lets put your data to work!
October 7, 2021

Hi All,

Apologies for the delay,

I do not think its a great idea for rule name column to default to the entire size of the rule name field. Entirety of the rule listing will be covered with rule name field only with this.

But that being said, I do understand the problem here. One thing I want to add is that you can, today, resize the rule name column in rules listing page. Today, we do not preserve this action when you reload the page. However, we can preserve this action going forward like how we do in report listing or dashboard listing today. 

 

 

And Re-Hyperlink the Rules in the Rule Chain View - PLEASE! (Separate but equal gripe)

I’d like to understand this one a bit more Dave. Is it when you are creating a rule chain? 

darkknight
Expert ⭐️
October 7, 2021

@rakesh We already know you can resize manuallly resize the column. Preserving the action would be appreciated, but in addition can we meet in the middle and have you at least double the width of the first column by default?  Perhaps you can use some of the wasted space that is occupied by the Status button.  I really don’t think expanding the width of the first column by default is going to obscure the rules information too much (especially if you move the Last Run Status to be the first column by default immediately after the Status button, which is really where it should be.)

 

Orig
Expanded

  Moving Last Run Status

 

Jeff Kirkpatrick
bradley
Expert ⭐️
October 7, 2021

Can I also add that truncating values in a field seems to be a universal problem now? Please fix this but look at where else this kind of behavior shows up and address it as well.

darkknight
Expert ⭐️
October 7, 2021

Agree with @bradley 

I had edited my previous comment but I suppose I failed to save it. 

 

This is about the UI working for the user in the most efficient way possible, by default, with the fewest clicks.  Yes, some folks may want to customize which is why saving the changes would be helpful, but I am willing to bet more often than not Admins need to see the whole rule name by default, and then if they need to see who created the rule, for example, that’s where the slide-scroll is useful.

What good is having all the other columns displayed in the view if you cannot tell to which Rule they apply?  @rakesh Making use of data in the additional columns is wholly dependent on knowing which with rule you are working.  They are useless if you cannot first identify the rule name.

I urge to you rethink displaying the full rule name by default.  Anyone who wants to shorten it can make use of state preservation.

 

I also urge you to consider reorganizing the columns in a more logical way by default, for example:

 

 

Jeff Kirkpatrick
bradley
Expert ⭐️
October 11, 2021

As another example, the “Used In” column in Rules is rather embarrassing. I have expanded it as wide as physically possible and it still looks like….this:

 

 

It’s as if different people made the different columns even in the same area of Rules in a vacuum which is just madness.

darkknight
Expert ⭐️
May 19, 2022

How soon is this fix coming?   So annoying.

Jeff Kirkpatrick