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mattlesiczka
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November 20, 2018
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Business Day Conditional Wait

  • November 20, 2018
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We recently ran an email campaign and it would have been great to have the conditional wait allow the option to only take an action based on a business day rule, as opposed to a calendar day rule.

Is there a workaround for this using other actions in Journey Orchestrator?

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      manmeet_dosanjh
      manmeet_dosanjh
      Helper ⭐️
      November 20, 2018
      I haven't been able to figure out a way to avoid sending emails on weekends or on holidays using Programs feature of Journey Orchestrator.

      I was able to set this up for an Onboarding campaign using the basic Outreaches tool by creating a date range in the Powerlist that was being used to filter participants. That way it pulls in contacts over a 3 day period, to account for the scheduled email falling on a Sat or Sun, that user would still show up in the Powerlist on Monday and have the email sent then.

      Then in the individual Outreach, I would select the "Every weekday (MON - FRI)" option for scheduling the email. This method allowed us to not send emails on weekends, unfortunately still went out on Holidays as I was not able to figure out how to avoid that scenario.

      This is obviously not the easiest or cleanest way to do this, but the only way I was able to configure it with current limitations. This also requires you to create a Powerlist for each email in the chain + an individual Outreach as well. The "Programs" feature requires a lot less work since you only need the one Powerlist and can create the chain of emails in one spot.

      cmultanen
      cmultanen
      Helper ⭐️
      November 20, 2018
      +1, this is a must. We currently use the powerlist 3-day method to get around sending on weekends but it still messes with our participant analytics.

        abhishek_sivaraman
        abhishek_sivaraman
        Helper ⭐️⭐️⭐️
        November 21, 2018
        Hi,

        We have a workaround for this for configuring this within the program using Conditional Wait and Salesforce Formula Fields. Please check this post - https://community.gainsight.com/conversations/how-to-send-emails-in-the-jo-only-on-weekdays-and-skip-weekends-5bf492a4e4b067063e68c304

        Thanks

        Abhishek S

          sai_ram
          sai_ram
          Expert ⭐️⭐️
          December 4, 2018
          Hi Matt,

          Did we answer to your question? Please let us know if you need any help, always welcome.

          kelly
          kelly
          Helper ⭐️⭐️⭐️
          December 4, 2018
          Is this a temporary workaround while an in-product solution is actively being investigated? That seems like a lot of work on a per-program basis just to avoid sending on weekends - especially if there are multiple email send steps.

            mattlesiczkaAuthor
            Contributor ⭐️⭐️
            December 4, 2018
            Hi Sam,

            Yes, I've seen several workarounds. I agree with Kelly, it would be ideal if we could skip weekends through a productized offering, similar to the logic in playbooks.

              cmultanen
              cmultanen
              Helper ⭐️
              July 31, 2020

              Any update on if this will be available as a feature? I understand there is a workaround but this requires a lot of work and is not scalable. 

                john_apple
                john_apple
                Expert ⭐️
                July 31, 2020

                The workaround also has a limitation due to the way the Conditional Wait processes every 11 hours, which can cause the second email step to send at an unusual time (e.g. early morning). This problem will be compounded if there are several email steps and Conditional Waits using the same workaround.

                I’d rather have the ability to skip all weekends when setting up the program to apply across all steps of the Program rather than have to figure out the timing sequence for each send.

                  cnichols
                  cnichols
                  Helper ⭐️
                  August 17, 2020

                  Thanks for the thread here - is there any way to force the hours to only be between 9 AM and 5 PM local time for the customer when we send? I know that JO polls every 11 hours however we have customers receiving emails in the middle of the night. 

                   

                   

                    matthieuland
                    Contributor ⭐️⭐️⭐️
                    September 23, 2021

                    Thanks for the thread here - is there any way to force the hours to only be between 9 AM and 5 PM local time for the customer when we send? I know that JO polls every 11 hours however we have customers receiving emails in the middle of the night. 

                     

                     

                    any update on this?

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